Evil is contradiction, discord. In this vein it is that Satan wants to be worshipped as God, not as Satan: He sits in the temple of God showing himself that he is God. Satanism is a sideshow, not the final world religion.  Michael Brown

I agree with you Michael. But this kind of “spiritual Satanism” that this group promotes is one where Satan IS that god.
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They have justified in their minds that Satan is the creator. And that the God of the Bible doesn’t exist. This is why I found this group so interesting. It seems as if their philosophy might be a precursor to the deception that will facilitate Satan reigning vicariously through the Antichrist.
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Dear John Hardin.

It seems to me that there are many who would not worship Satan as such but who would worship Satan masquerading as God. Like in Revelation it says all the world wondered after the beast and said “who is like unto the beast?”, and, “who is able to make war with him?” I think it is unlikely that “beast” is the actual word in their vocabulary that is used. Like “who is like unto antichrist?, or, who is like unto Satan? It is just that the narrative in Revelation calls a spade a spade.

But your viewpoint is well taken. The Satanist movement may possess all the earmarks of the final deception.

Sincerly, Michael Brown.

P.S. Have you ever heard of the “Pentateuch of David”?

(Message retrieved from spam filter)  John Hardin

No, I haven’t heard of the Pentateuch of David… but I will check on it. What is it about?

John  John Hardin

interesting …. i am trying to accept their “knowledge” but i dont know if what they say is actually true… can you please inform me more on this issue on coroi_adi@yahoo.com? i dont belive there is a god i am more in the scients way but i am tryin to learn more and more …so please help me   spawn

Hi John Hardin.

The ancient Jews called the book of Psalms “The Pentateuch of David.” That is because of the fivefold division of the Psalms. A closer look may reveal a deeper correspondence between the Pentateuch and Psalms. Book I of Psalms is similer in character to Genesis. Book II to Exodus, Book III to Leviticus, Book IV to Numbers, and Book V to Deuteronomy.  Michael Brown

Interesting thought. Your post has reminded me to look into that.
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Dear John Hardin.

There are several writers on the subject. My primary source is F. W. Grant. Read the introduction of his book “The Numerical Structure of Scripture” at:

http://www.newble.co.uk/grant/nsb/lecture1.html

Although most modern versions show the division of Psalms into five books, the significance is not entered into. In the afore mentioned book, Grant shows, not only the significance of the Psalms being a Pentateuch, but also that the Pentateuch is the basis of structure of all Scripture.  Michael Brown

Both satan and god are imaginary creatures like archetypes created by a man.
There will be no winner in war of theism and antitheism. The Joy of Satan
is somekind of zealous pseudo satanist not a real freethinker. Most of the text seems to be utter propaganda without professional style of academic citations. I consider myself as a freethinker and really can see people are wasting their lives with a religion no matter xtianity or satanism it´s all foolery. Action speaks stronger than a book.  satan and god are imaginary

I agree with you ‘previous poster’. By the way, thank you for reading the article and taking the time to respond. Actions do speak louder than words. In fact, I would say that a person that doesn’t live in a way that proves their belief, then they don’t even believe their own testimony. I also consider myself a free thinker in pursuit of the truth. I don’t like propaganda, and I’m not easily swayed by charismatic teachers. But I am a Christian.
I will agree also with your statement that satanism, christianity, and most other world religions are nothing more than foolery. I include Christianity in that mix because Christianity today is NOT the Christianity that Christ intended to be followed. Christianity today is hypocrisy, hatemongering, and greed. The encouraging thing is, there are some true Christians out there that aren’t just robots repeating what they’ve been told to believe… they are actually free thinkers who have come to the conclusion that God exists and He is exactly as He has presented Himself throughout history. These Christians that I’m speaking of are good witnesses, because their actions give their message credibility… we actually believe wholeheartedly what we speak. Our faith is not an esoteric thing, but our faith is based on knowledge and reason… the way it should be!
You and I have the same kind of faith. You have faith that God doesn’t exist because that’s what the evidence tells you.. I have faith that He does exist because that’s what the evidence tells me. I would like to compare notes with you on this subject.   John Hardin

This whole posting is a joke. You obviously don’t know anything about Spiritual Satanism, and you were even at the correct sites! Ha-ha…wow. Why not spend a little actual time discovering what it has to offer, rather than being an ignorant bafoon ragging on a group.  Death

Maybe you could tell us what spiritual Satanism has to offer. And please include some credible and / or logical support for your claims.  John Hardin

I guess we all need security…that is a primal drive..hunger forced individuals to become pack of hunters, create a family and tribe..with the advent of agriculture and iron tools and other such technological improvemnts, men’s mind were put to ease…the ignorance that caused gods to be created for thunders, storms, lightening and other such natural phenomena, became condensed as a single god concept in Juadeo-christian-Islamic way of thought, which took its roots from Grrk-roman mythologyu and ancient egypt too…Well the most important thing is that humans are afraid..when there are resources, the fear to lose them and when there are none, there is a fight..So a multitude of gods and other such things…
Those who want to believe or be agnostics, should be a personal choice.not forcing, or coercing others and not harming..
If there is only one god..does it matter how we worship…
In the end, it is an endless debate..let the army of satan come..then we shall have the proof or the proposed kingdom of heaven for that matter..
when thousands are dying from hunger and other such things, while a few enjoy the luxuries..we are all criminals..  Gunjan

Reading this makes me sick to my stomach. You give NO facts. Just all opinions. Why dont you cite anything regarding your interpretation on what Satan means? Satan is enemy in Hebrew. Jews created your entire RELIGION!! Christianity was a tool made by the Jews! To deceive you! While they control the world and gain magickal power, you worship a FALSE entity, Jesus Christ, and wonder why your lives are still filled with disease and poverty. “God” as advertised in the BIBLE, IS US. WE ARE GOD. We are meant to empower ourselves. We are GOD. The entire bible is written to strip us of our spirit. “Drink his blood and eat his body” Thats not the body of CHRIST! ITS US!

And btw, Satanism predates EVERYTHING in humanity. It just wasn’t under the name Satanism. The actual religion itself predates, the name, however, does not. How bout you Christians look up the Pagan gods. Read it. Read about Oden and the tree. And compare that to the nazarene. The jews stole everything from the Pagan gods and kept the spiritual knowledge that was meant for US to attain. And they control the entire world now because of it. They control the entire world because they have masked themselves as Christians, and got you all to worship a false god. Giving them unlimited spiritual power which leads to ultimate power in all aspects. Military, money, science, and the media. Get educated. Stop believing what you were told. Do the research yourself. Its all there.  Mike

@Mike – According to research done by J I Packer, in his book “In My Place Condemned He Stood”, Packer explains that all Pagan religions had their beginnings in Monotheism, and were influenced by the first worshipers of the true God. Retractors of Judaism / Christianity today flip that around and claim the similarities between pagan worship and Judaism are the result of Jewish copycats… but nothing could be further from the truth. The beginnings of worship were derived from the early worshipers of the One true God, and over time this worship became self-centered, obligatory, and attempted to be persuasive of the god / gods of perverted religion. The primary evidence for this is that the earliest of pagan religions in Mesopotamia were monotheistic in nature… and gradually perverted even further to include other gods.

Seriously… is it more logical to think that a group called the Hebrews just came up out of nowhere and started copying pagan religious practices to a made-up god… or is it more logical to think that worship began pure, and was gradually perverted over the centuries by selfish people?  John Hardin

Thats exactly what I had just said. The Pagan gods are the true original gods. Not jesus christ and not any other higher being connected to the nazarene. It is them that humanity has been based off of and it is them who hold the true power in this world. And it is the Christian church who has corrupted this power and abused it, giving false impressions of where the true magickal power of this world comes from, Enki. But Enki will eventually return to earth and reclaim his land. Satanism has been associated with Paganism and all who oppose Xtianity. In order to control masses amounts of people you need to control their minds, not their physical bodies. And thats the goal of Xtianity, to control your mind while your spirit remains powerless  Mike

I was raised as a pentecostal holiness christian and latter my family made a major shift to mennonite beliefs along with amish influence that later merged to taking on church of christ and now they are church of god. I was raised to study various religions and taught to memorize much of the old and new testament from a very young age. I have also read the christian bible through more than once. I have also read the history of the church and christianity along with the history of Roman Catholics and their crusades to murder all who disagreed with them in the 1400 and 1500s. Let me be very clear. Your article is based on a bias of so called knowledge of what you think these websites are claiming or focusing their attention on. You believe as you said that they are focused on christianity too much. I find that an odd evaluation when christianity mentions Satan continually as their opponent and works feverishly to keep everyone as scared of him as possible. Yet when the “Opponent” side mentions the deciet of christianity in order to inform followers of Satan that they should be freed from the liklieness of a lifetime of an oppressed belief system in christianity, you slander them for their efforts to help those that wish to be Satanists, their given right to break free of such a ludicrous and hole filled religion as christianity. Why not talk about the deciet of chistianity. christians have talked about Satan and slandered his name for years. By the way, those who believe in Satanism and call themselves Satanists are not decieved nor do they care about what christians claim of them. We could care less. We have structure, organization, respect for humanity, we do not give blood sacrifices of humans and we may even come across at times as brutally honest but if you don’t wish to hear it or you are so sure of your own beliefs you would pay us no mind or attention. Why do you right so much about us? Are you curious? Feel free to dig deeper. You might find that all you know as a christian is a lie. Happy Hunting!  Brandon

It is clear from your comments, Mr. Mike, that you have been completely and utterly deceived to the point of hopelessness – but there is a chance for you yet.

Read ALL of what I’m about to say carefully and after thinking it through, only then may you reply so as to not make a fool of yourself. We don’t want that now, do we?…no we don’t want that…

To become a satanist I assume you underwent some kind of induction? A pledge or a complete ritual symbolizing your allegiance, loyalty, etc.? You are probably unaware (or perhaps you are) then, that a real satanist gives up his/her soul during this process, binding themselves to him (you can’t deny this, there’s no way you can obtain this so-called ‘power’ without giving up anything in return and satanists have been known to admit to it, that they “gave up their souls to the devil”).
How then can you become powerful or ‘enlightened’ without a soul from which to work from?

The devil’s plan, his whole purpose is to deceive, to steal, to destroy and you proudly claim to worship such a being? You only need to research into medieval occultism and paganism to find out about their detestable & questionable rituals which wasn’t only human sacrifices (that is a given), did you yourself not attest to drinking and eating the blood and flesh of yourselfves, as man? Is that power? Knowledge? Enlightenment? Freedom?…..really? Really, really-?

You call yourselves ‘gods’ (that is the base belief of your ‘enlightenment’, no?) and I hope you’re not just an average-salary worker somewhere (or you’ll seriously have to re-consider some of these beliefs of yours).
So what do you own? What have you made with your own hands than no other man can make or HAS made? Who else worships YOU as a ‘god’? In spite of all this you still answer to satan, do you not? He’s been punished and is waiting for his appointed time – not willingly – and he plans to drag you down with him.
Do you think he could have this amount of control over the world if the One and only true God had not permitted it? His time is coming and he’s restless so he causes dissension and hatred among men. Sin, sickness and diseases are rampant in this earth, all this is his doing. Who else but him? And boy is he good at what he does, he’s doing a very thorough job of it indeed.

The power you claim to possess is weak. Its limit is put out in plain view for all to see when true children of God cast out demons, heal the sick and destroy entire convens of witches and their work to such an extent that they themselves acknowledge the power greater than their own. I have witnessed this myself in a time of life I’m not proud but it’s behind me now. Which is why I can tell you that the freedom you think you have, the knowledge you think you have obtained from satanism… – it’s a wicked thing and not at all the truth.

What exactly have you done with your ‘power’ & ‘magick’? I’m genuinely curious. To what point have you cultivated it? When you get sick does it cure you? Permanently? Will it stop you from ageing and dying like the rest of mankind? Still using incantations from books?

Why is it that these people who have evidently given their souls to satan are caught in a loop: deppression, drug addiction, confusion, illnesses, betrayal, a feeling that nothing is ever enough!…and ultimately, death. They truly seem to be suffering. That is undeniable. The riches and ‘power’ they gained from him they cannot take with them to sheol. They have worshipped satan for nothing. It all comes down to nothing.

I bet people like Aleister Crowley and Arthur Machen are regretting their decisions immensely right now. They probably thought after they died and met with satan himself, he’d show them favor and reward them for their deeds: “Job well done, now stand aside, have a rest and help yourself to some refreshments” or maybe “Oh goody! You’re finally here, come help me torture these souls!”

Well…if you’re experienced you could find out for yourself directly from these men, I suppose. But do not be deceived. The devil has always taken what belongs to God and proceeded to imitate, mock, disguise and contort the truth all for his benefit, not for the benefit of men such as yourselves, but for himself.

It is no surprise then that these people, though they claim to have higher knowledge, have not taken the time to read what the bible says about them because it says a lot. Or maybe they have and had not understood it because God did not reveal His mysteries to them.

They don’t know why they have the agenda they have and if you ask they’ll say “power”, “wealth”, “truth”, “inner-peace”, “independence” to mention a few.
Most don’t even know why they do what they do and some who have tried to abandon the practise within their own abilities after sensing something was horribly wrongt have failed – miserably.
They don’t understand that they need the grace of God Almighty, the only One who has power and control over the devil.
Most important of all – they don’t know they’re fulfilling His prophecies that have been told through His servants from time. Of your signs and falsehood, false miracles, false predictions. Of your arrogance, of your deeds and practises, of your thoughts and actions, of your goals and agendas – EVERYTHING you’re working towards have been revealed in the bible. You’d think if they read and understood it they’d change their plans somewhat to gain the upperhand but no-! They continue on like rageing bulls and frenzied boars.

It’s true indeed that you must know the plans of your enemies in order to win against them and succeed. I know. True children & servants of The Most High know. Those who have really studied the bible and its hidden mysteries through the aid of the Holy Spirit know!

Do you know?

It’s never too late to free yourself, my friend. It IS a tug-of-war for souls and the side that wins is calling for you to open your eyes and join them because all has already been decided, it’s up to you now. God desires victory for all His children, for all mankind.

Open your eyes and look around you. Is this really it?  DP

PS: I’ve shortened my comment a bit, didn’t realize how lengthy it was…still is. (^_^);

But I have a lot to say and questions I have asked other satanists which are still waiting to be answered.  DP

my whole family was catholic i have read the bible and i have a few questions for you dp you will still die like the rest of us will you not? you wont be miraculously healed if you get seriously ill christians always say that there god is so great if he is so great why is it that in christianity you are forced to be a slave to this god you must obey these commandments all your life and live a life unlived until you die just to get to heaven i used to be forced to go to sunday school and church all i also went to a christian school we had to stand up and pray three times a day walk to church rain snow any weather to get to an old church we then had to stand for 20 minutes saying the full hail marry over nd over the service lasted 2 hours everytime we had montly confessions where we were in a circle in the library they turned all the lights out the priest would come in and shout at people and terrify them into cofessing their sins there was no such thing as not commiting a sin according to them everyone had sins we were 10 after being a christian for ages i was sick of it all it does is repress your life i never felt any thanks or this love when we had to pray and get shouted at in the dark nd be forced to stand with others in front of the whole church becuse i wasnt confirmed with my arms crossed over my chest everyone starring at me my dad even told me he is now an atheist his dad was a cardinal in the vatican and he knows our current pope used to be in the hitler youth that kind of brainwashing never leaves you why do christians blindly see him as the holiest man on earth when he is just a man what has he done to help the world what miracles has he done has who has he ever helped i watched a show tht was on tv about him showing what his day consists of he does nothing he takes time to walk around the vaticans gardens aparantly thinking of god and praying think of the dark ages which i am learning about in school im 15 by the way i take history in gcse everyone was suffering aparantly for god women used to be seen as far less then men because of religion we were learing that christianity in medivel times held science back as they did not believe in disection they followed a guy called galens ideas and you were not allowed to question them even though they were completly wrong think of all the torture devices that were invented and used because of christianity all those people that suffered pain worse than anything hell could aparantly offer in christianity youwere made to always feel guilty and that if you didnt beilive in absolutly everything about god if you questioned anything you were a sinner the whole religion has a history of unimagineable torture and pain murders apparently all the work of god are you telling me that all those people deserved that they were all evil people who deserved to have there flesh ripped and burnt being burnt alive having their bones crushed to dust being forced to confess even if they were innocent and how can the bible be accurate the printing press wasnt around when it was apparently first written things were written by hand by diffrent people and the translations werent a good back then so things like in chinese whispers could easily get changed throughout history the christian church has always been rich while people have suffred greatly like when they pass the church collection plate around that money goes to the church do you actually see inprovements to the church from this money and have you ever noticed how in the church one is considered a sinner for having an intrest in horoscopes horoscopes are in teen magazines according to the bible anyone who has ever dabbled in the occult or even shown interest in it is doomed to hell if he loves you so much why does he lets this happen ask yourself if god is al knowing and all powerful and he knows what is going to happen and he can stop it why is he letting it happen when there is no need for all the suffering to come in the first place he could stop it right away he could make it so there was no devil but wait that would make it too easy for us wouldnt it we would have nothing to mislead us he gave us no free will there are the ten comandments why would he give us free will then expect us to follow rules or say your going to hell its like letting criminals out of their cells and saying your free to do what you want and expecting them to behave or get severly punished if we lose our way or betray god even once he dams us to hell forever what kind of truly loving god would do that and what has he done for you has he answered all your prayers what has he really done for you  alexandra

LOL~ Alexandra, like most ‘christians’ who grew up with strict ‘christian’ parents, we’ve all been through that. Hated going to church, for the longest time I just quit and I strated questioning things. Sunday became just another weekend and I liked it that way… even now I don’t go to church every Sunday and you know what? It doesn’t matter. Don’t misunderstand me, church is helpful towards your spiritual growth and drawing you closer to God but it’s pointless if you’re not there of your own volition. It won’t work that way.

I want to say first of all before I go any further, that what you think is ‘christianity’ is not. Catholics, the vatican, the pope the so-called ‘capital city/center of christendom’ is all a lie. These people are not working for the same God as all the messianic/moshiac followers of Y’shua (Jesus) are, they have their own agenda ( dig deep enough and you’ll find this to be true). Even the word ‘christianity’ is not what it seems to be which is why I put it in quotes – it IS deceitful and filled with lies. I’ll give you a quick lesson in history. You all know about the Roman empire and to which extent their control reached. The Romans didn’t like the growing church (which was fast spreading from the east to nations like Greece) because they were getting a lot of support and a lot of followers and they didn’t want a political situation on their hands. While they were occupying most of europe and the other nations acquired in their empire they seeked to oppress the people so they could stay in control for the sake of their empire but the church kept growing and they forsaw a possible rebellion. Eventually it became one of those situations where if you couldn’t beat them, you joined them but not so.. .they joined them, they took it, changed it and made it their own. They took the truth mixed it with their lies, made it half-truths – which essentially made it simply lies – which is why you have most people around the world with views that ‘christianity’ is a western religion. Have you ever wondered why that is when we all know that Y’shua(Jesus) was Jewish? And that brings me to my next bullet point. In ancient Rome they called all their gods ‘Cristo’ which is where the word ‘Christ’ comes from. The settlements further to the west (the vikings, celts, saxons etc.) actually reffered to Y’shua as “Jesus Christ, the roman god”. What happened to his Jewish roots? Then obviously they can’t be talking about the same person because Y’shua was not roman, God is not the same as other gods and therefore cannot and should not be compared to them. I no longer call Him Christ and I’m still researching about the true origins of the name ‘Jesus’. In conclusion, ‘Christ’ does not mean ‘messiah’ as most people think and was never meant to be treated like his seond name, his title or even his surname which unfortunately we’ve adapted to doing, therefore those who follow Y’shua and believe all that he is, that he is the son of God & the messiah cannot be called christians then, can they? Obviously not. Because to be a christian is to be a follower of ‘christ’. They have taken what belongs to God and corrupted it with pagan practices.

This ‘Hail Mary’ chanting you do is just pure idolism, everyone knows this even some catholics will say this – why? – catholics practically worship the statues of ‘virgin’ mary, they’ve created holidays and festivals celeberating events which in no part of the bible does it mention (especially ‘michaelmas’- where in the bible does it say you must set aside a day for angels and worship & or give them praise or credit?); they have created a man-made god, the pope, to satisfy their desires “If the pope says it’s okay then it can’t be a sin…” you’re right about how people blindly call him the holiest man on the planet – people ARE being brainwashed but not by the people you think…… And confession? You do not confess your sins to man, you confess them to GOD. If I were in your place I think I’d have just outrightly refused- not because I had foresight but because I wouldn’t have been able to bring myself to submit to a human being such as myself, one whom I didn’t know and hang all my dirty laundry out there to dry. That practice, in the past, was used to manipulate people and to hold their secrets against them, all for their benefit. To understand what I’m saying you truly have to know your history – not history as media and propaganda would have it , REAL history, the truth. I’ll say another thing before I go on: the crusaders were masons, templars, this is so obvious It’s uncomprehendable why people say they were bible-believing followers of God working in His name to fulfil their God-given mission which was to what? Invade and kill the inhabitants of the holy land? Nonsense. When they say God surely they don’t mean the God of the bible. This is clearly another form of misinformation that fools people to this day. Catholics are NOT bible-believing, true God-fearing people. Neither are the jesuits (so-called society of jesus), neither are free-masons and the same goes for the spanish inquisition. The motives and goals behind them were as deceitful as they were evil! No one deserves to die. Religion is so filled with hate and discord because religion in itself is based on lies.

Now about the ealier bible texts & manuscripts…most ancient text were done without a printing press so does that discredit all translated versions of the original copies? Back then copying & translating the old testament scripts wasn’t even allowed unless you were a priest/teacher and needed it for your minstry and when such a circumstance occured, experienced scribes were chosen for the work and it was then scrutinized and checked countless times before the priest/teacher could take it away with him (and this usually took about or close to a five months, sometimes longer). After the originals were written under the guidance of the Holy Spirit of course careful measures were taken to ensure the translated text were word-for-word equivalent to its original counterpart lest they incur the wrath of God…..really. There’re many scriptures in the bible which mentions this (deuteronomy, proverbs, ecclesiastes, jeremiah): “If you take away a word or add unto the word of God”…well just expect what’s coming next. And it makes me wonder what did come next because I doubt there wouldn’t have been anyone at all who didn’t try to do so. What most families who didn’t know or understand any hebrew or aramaic (which are the languages the original texts were written in) – and were not so well off that they could afford to pay for scribes- had to do was that. they would find someone who knew hebrew and aramaic and have them read it out loud with an interpreter in the room. To be honest I don’t trust the english translated version of the bible especially the ‘good news’ bible. There are so many hebrew teachers who have found wrong translations in the english version (and this is mostly because they weren’t translated directly from the hebrew or aramaic original but from latin & other ancient european languages) and because of this those who try to disprove the words of the bible as history or fact argue that the bible is inconsistent and has many loop holes. Obviously if you change or omit even one word in a sentence, its meaning can completely change as well. And then there’s also the matter of time and how languages have developed over the years. What I’d like to do is get my own hebrew scribe and have them interpret it to me as well. When reading the bible it is not completely strange to first find the meaning of a word, its origin and then the hebrew (or aramaic) equivalent of the word, its synonyms and its origin or you can eee~asily miss something.
Now if your church is not growing and expanding positively obviously something’s not right and you’re allowed to investigate. It’s hard to find a good church these days, everyone’s all about “tithe & you will prosper!!” which is not a lie but they rarely preach about anything else. (-_-); My church is quite small and it welcomes and encourages members to be actively involved in the voluntary work which sees that the money goes to places where it’s needed most, without the third parties; we often have members of our church travelling to other countries to oversee the building of a school or an orphanage and to personally donate clothing and food. There will always be people who are in need and it seems for all the charities in the world and all the volunteer workers and all the pennies & pounds, cents & dollars and euros you gave away – nothing much has changed~! Yeah it’s frustrating, no doubt. But there’s also something about knowing that even if you couldn’t help ALL the homeless and needy people in the world you could help 5 or ten or 20. I steer clear off big churches with heavy interior work and unnecessary decorations, it’s like rather than buying that 20ft tall crucifix or that 7metre wide globe or that pulpit which looks suspiciously like its been crafted from genuine silver and gold, you could have bought a small orphanage somewhere and paid for a whole month’s worth of brekfast, lunch & dinner. It seems even churches these days are loosing grip on the reality and true reason why we do what we do….
Horoscopes, psychics, palm-reading etc. is not as harmless as it seems, they put them in teen magazines and it looks “fun & exciting, you’d like to try it, what the heck, it probably won’t be right anyway”- well doesn’t that say something and set off a few alarms in your head. You admit yourself that it’s occult and if you know even a little bit of demonology you’ll know that the occult is associated with demons, an occultist who claims to be able to see or tell the future works hand-in-hand with a demon-watcher or something known as a ‘familiar spirit’, ‘guardians’ and, on much higher levels, an ascended [learned] master, either way they’re demons. You might think it’s harmless but you have no idea what you could be inviting to your home and once they get an invitation they will never leave. You may not care or may think they can possibly help you but…just know what you’re doing or things could go horribly, horribly wrong. These people are “doomed to hell”, yes but you forget the part about them repenting – they are only doomed to hell if they, knowing the truth, continue to involve themselves in it. There’s always a chance, a way out. You may be bound but he doesn’t completely have you until the agreed period of time stated in the contract passes (some of you may know what I’m talking about).
It’s not by force that you follow the commandments, Alexandra, again it’s pointless, void if you’re not doing it because you WANT to. Man will always struggle with it and He understands that. It will be so much more simple!! So simple!! …if we would just relax and leave all the work to Him you ask me how to do that: it’s only by clearly seeing your limits as man and allowing Him to teach you which steps to take – it’s not slavery, it’s being humble in its most sincerest form. Life doesn’t have to be hard.

Also I’ll let you know, in answer to the first question you asked me, that even something as dismissive as a cold I have not caught in over 3 years, if it had anything to do with immunity then I would not have caught them in the previous years, it was only after I acquired the knowledge that is the will of God. But in no way did I say that I won’t eventually die as man should because the human body is not eternal. And I have been miraculuosly healed many, many times before and have seen others experience it too – that was a bit of a non-question. I don’t know how to make it any more simple. I’ll answer your questions, I’ll tell you the truth of what I know but it’s up to you to decide what to do with it, isn’t it?

I just hate that a lot of people are going to leave it till the last minute only to bitterly regret it when they had so many chances…….  DP

This is rediculous. the word is satan is scanscit for truth. The jews are the ones that turned it into adversarry in their forged language. Secound salem burke is not the founder of joyofsatan. Maxine Dietrich is. Salem Burke is not even apart of joyofsatan anymore….  Paradox

I have never read such a dumb statement in my life. First of all you say he is appointed, I am assuming you mean by your god whom you believe to be the one and true god. I know all about your “god”. I want to ask you this… If your god is so great why would he allow his children to be dragged down? Also why do you believe your god is permitting Satan to bring us down, that is such a stupid concept, no kind creator would allow his creation to be led to ruins. Satan is not ruled by anything nore do I believe he wants to rule us. He is my God because he fills me with knowledge and brings enlightenment he leads us and we Satanist will obey! He rules me by choice. Hail Father Lucifer! You lame xians need to realize it is not anyones fault for all the Earths demise. People are greedy, selfish and sick because of themselves.  Melodious

@Melodious — “If your god is so great why would he allow his children to be dragged down?” you basically answered your own question with this next statement of yours…”People are greedy, selfish and sick because of themselves” – I don’t think any true child of the living God has ever faulted Him for the suffering and evil in this world, we will always state the fact, and that is, it is the selfish SINS of man that imprisons their souls to a life of torment and an eternity in hell – who are you misquoting?

You don’t know God at all. You’re no where close! Someone who will only listen to what they want to hear, closing their eyes and ears to the truth. Believing in myths, arguing with empty words, worshipping demons. Don’t delude yourself because He won’t reveal Himself to an infant soul such as yours. You think your ‘master’ is giving you knowledge but it’s a lie, you think he’s enlightened you but he’s basically twisted the truth for his own pleasure~ satan wasn’t no.2 in heaven for nothing, he knows very well how to manipulate us, he’s smart, I’m not gonna dodge that but his knowledge, power and wisdom has a limit because he cut himself off from the source of creation and all power, God. The devil’s cunning ways will deceive any fool ready to take a shortcut straight to sheol. Truth is you chose satan because he doesn’t give you any ‘rules’ so to speak, he says everything is ok as long as you enjoy it, he satisfies your carnal and earthly desires. “You can do no wrong” & tells you to live life as you want and you worship him for basically enforcing your free will which you would have had the freedom to do anyway without having to bow down to anything or anyone least of all an entity that despises you because God raised man over the angels of heaven of which he belonged – you think he’d want to help you and ‘free’ you despite all that? But man is fickle. You’re being used & when your soul departs from this world it will be too late to change your mind. What do you think it’s like, after death? What did he say will happen once you die? I’m genuinely curious. It won’t be a celeberation that’s for sure. This is eternity, ETERNITY. Do you understand the meaning of that word? I’ll say this one last time………don’t regret.  DP

Mary K. Baxter has a book ‘Divine Revelation of Hell’. The gay guy in hell says, “I prayed a prayer to Jesus. I don’t know what I am doing here.” Jesus says, “Blind, foolish, wake up.” (So much for a prayer saving us.) Paul says, “By grace through faith you are saved, not of works.” James says, “Faith without works is dead. By works Abraham was saved.” “Lord, did we not prophecy, do wonders, cast devils in your name.” “I never knew you. Depart from me you that practice iniquity.” (So much for doing the work of the lord to get to heaven.) Christians say pray to Jesus and you will be saved. Then they say to not stay on the fence. They say now you must serve God or he will ” Spit you out of my mouth.” They want 10 percent of your income. Work in the church free of charge. Proseletyze, drag others in that our’bellies’ may be filled. (Sheep lure you in. Wolves devour you.) At a church once they preach and practice praying in tongues. One of them a 5 fold teacher said that I was wasting my time praying in tongues. He also said that there are ‘nephilim’ on earth today. (Sounds like he is confirming David Icke in my opinion). He also said there is no heaven. Even the Apostle said that a prayer to Jesus won’t save you. But he, the female prophet, and the teacher keep using it to lure people in and control them. (And take their money.) Praying for the sick for years did not produce any noticable results. When I realized this, the apostle was quick to jump in and say, “praying for the sick does not work.” Befor the prophet and apostle spoke the ‘word of the lord’ directly from Jesus supposedly. That word said, “pray for the sick and I will heal them.” The word of the lord failed. (Or more likely, these people only want money, power over others, etc, like the reptilian ‘nephilim’ elite). They are traitors so far as betraying people’s faith is concerned. And they use idiots like me as ‘fall guys’. And they are all ‘blasphemers of the holy ghost’. They call psychics, Buddha, Krishna, Astrology, etc the ‘devil. They preach against that sin the most and do it the most. Like every other sin. I banish Christianity from my life. I banish ‘religion’ from my life. I banish the people above from my life. I will stick to spirituality and leave ‘organized religion alone. Others are free to do as they please. As Vernon Howard said in his book, ‘Esoteric Mind Power’. “Let people com and go as they please, which is not coldness as some think, but love which they won’t understand.”  higher

David R. Hawkins says in his book, “Power vs. Force” that “Believers are always because of their imbalance perception and their inclination to violence.” He also says that fundamental Christians think Buddha was possessed with a demon. His book Eye of the I. Demons calibrate below 200 (courage and integrity). Buddha like Krishna, Brahman, Christ, and Mazda calibrate at 1000. Zoroaster also it seems in later books. In a church service once someone said to another person, “She saw Buddha in hell. And before he died he said, ‘I have not found the way’”. Well, we do not know who is right. Hawkins warns in his books to “not make a belief system out of anything, even this. Until you know experientially, always apply the caveat, ’so I heard’ “. Hindus and Buddhists seem a lot more enlightened than Christians, Jews, and Islam. The far east is a lot more peaceful in their religions. The west are to power and money hungry. Like the Crusaders and Conquistadors. Blasphemers, Hypocrites, Murderers, Pedaphiles, Baby Killers. Their own children. Little girls die. Little boys raped. “BY THEIR FRUIT YOU WILL KNOW THEM.” Christians. Calibrations tell all. Their lives even more. “Born in sin, Com on in.” The movie, Storm of the Century tells a lot about human nature in the real world. Forget the supernatural stuff. The human behavior is very real life stuff. And misery lovers company. The movie portrays real human nature. For those of us ‘who like knowing’.  om

As Andre Linoge says, ” Tell the truth, and shame the devil.”  hi

The LAMSA version of the bible written in Aramaic says in the footnotes at the beginning of the bible the Isaiah 14: 12 in the ancient Aramaic language says the word ‘H E L E L ‘ is the actually meaning which means ‘howl. The Hebrew word Heliel which means light is actually a mis translation. It says this verse is talking about the ‘King of Babylon’ and not ‘Lucifer’. The Joseph Lamsa bible. They are rare but I found them. Also David Icke says that the ’sons of God’ mating in the book of Genesis actually means in hebrew, ‘Sons of the gods’. So much for the Almighty, if he is right. I need to find a Strongs concordance to confirm this. Anyone check it out? In the Lamsa version Jesus cries out, “You have not forsaken me. From this I have been spared.” David Hawkins says the Greek has errors such as its recording of Jesus speaking on the cross. He says the Lamsa is the more accurate. Of course David Icke says that their is no historical evidence of Jesus, Buddha, or any other great ones other than the Canons of the religious reptilians and the elite. He says that Jesus is a myth borrowed from others like the god Vishnu. Maybe he is right. I don’t know. I just know that religion is a contradictory, liar. So I stay away from it.  hi

Selfish sins of man… Don’t blame it on Satan. My desires have nothing to do with Satan, yes he will help me but that is not the purpose of Satanism. He has revealed to me that it is in my power to do it my self. Christians are the ones always on their knees begging for crap. I used to be a Xian so I do know your god. Satan shows his followers how to strengthen their own souls, while xians suffer from the lack of. When I was Xian I gave all of me to god until I was empty, I would get on my knees and beg for him to fill me… Never happened. I soon was introduced to Satan he shows me the way to wisdom… Knowledge. I empower my soul and never again feel empty. He is beautiful and powerful! He reveals true fulfillment to those who will open their dazed god damned eyes. Hail Satan!  Melodius

You want to think you know so much about Satan and Satanism. You don’t… maybe if you werent so scared of hell you would learn something. I know for a fact your terrified of hell because you mention it several times in your comments. The main thing that prevents people from seeing the true Satan is fear, don’t fear anything, and you will learn so much.  Melodius

I banish Christianity from my life forever.  freedom seeker

I do not think some of you realize that Satan is an actual being. His Sumarian name is Enki, but today we call him Satan. We have relationships with Father Satan that you cannot accept. I have felt the power of Satan. Your arrogance is amusing.  Steve

At least there are still a handful of people out there that follow Jesus Christ He had intended for us to. All of these comments above me are just mere attempts to drive away the only real threat of theirs; Christianity. The common idea I’m seeing from these comments is that we “don’t understand satanism at all” or “don’t give it a chance.” Well if John is taking facts directly from your headquarters website, are you denying what you’re supposed to be standing for to begin with? He backs up all of his points but you all just say it’s his opinion, when in fact he has legitimate points. On the other hand your religion is merely opinion.

God is just waiting for you to come back to Him. He loves you all, very much. And He is ever-forgiving, so I dare you to give him an honest chance, and tell me you weren’t moved. If so, I’m disappointed, but that the reason He gives us a choice, so we can truly love His as our Lord and Savior.

God bless,
- Graham  Graham

Having read your article I would commend you for the lengths you took to bring your point across but I do find it very subjective more than objective. You also mention how the joy of satan tries to prove that the bible is full of alchemical codes that are linked to occultism and that this is “circumstantial blather”. This is a very biased opinion. Has it not occurred to you the numerous mistakes in the bible?? And the faint idea that this might be true? Do you know that there are similarities between freemasonry and the bible? (I will further elaborate on this) Have you not spotted the mistakes yet? There are internal contradictions, numerical contradictions and failed prophecies as well as those that weren’t even prophecies at all in the Bible.
One example is Matthew 1:22-23
And this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: “The virgin is with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel-which means ‘God is with us’”. Assuming this would be a fulfilment of Isaiah’s prophecy (or not) in Isaiah 7:14 of the virgin birth:- “Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.” However the problem here is that Matthew was quoting the book of Isaiah which was taken from the Septgauint, which is the earliest remains of the bible (the torah of the Pentateuch) translated to greek. If you look at the bible in its original Hebrew, the word “almah” is used instead of “virgin.” THIS IS EVEN ON WIKIPEDIA!! “Almah “ simply means “young woman” so Isaiah may have simply been saying a “young woman” will give birth to a son named Immanuel. It makes sense because Immanuel is only mentioned in 2 verses in the old testament book of Isaiah and then in the new testament repeated by Matthew, so why would there be a link with jesus if it’s only mentioned twice?? If “Immanuel” was referring to the messiah surely he would receive more recognition than that? “Almah” also means young woman of marriageable age. This is ambigious because if Isaiah really meant to say “virgin” he would have just said “parthenos” which would be the greek translation for “virgin”, which is what the septgauint is( a greek translation of the original bible.) So either matthew was misled and mistranslated this or Isaiah was confused. Therefore there was never really a prophecy to begin with.
Remember that the books in the old testament and those in the new testament were centuries apart, so they were written at different time periods. Other obvious contradictions are the geneology of Christ and how luke and matthew contradict each other. The most glaring contradiction is that in luke there are 42 descendants whereas in matthew there are 40 and IN THE WRONG ORDER!? . Also matthew displays that joseph’s father is Jacob whereas Luke feels that it is Heli, but in some online articles some have disputed that Heli may have been mary (jesus’s mother’s father), thereby making him joseph’s father in law not joseph’s father!!! But then there are also assumptions that Heli may actually have been jacob’s brother Eli making him joseph’s uncle?! Apart from these there are also numerical contradictions but the worst internal contradiction is judas’s death. There are 2 accounts in the bible. One says he hanged himself and another says he fell on a precipice and his intestines gushed out. So which one is accurate?? Matthew 27:3-5
When Judas, his betrayer, saw that he was condemned, he repented and brought back the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and the elders, saying, “I have sinned in betraying innocent blood.” They said, “What is that to us? See to it yourself.” And throwing down the pieces of silver in the temple, he departed; and he went and hanged himself.
Acts 1:18
Now this man [Judas] bought a field with the reward of his wickedness; and falling headlong he burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out. There have been several attempts by apologists to explain this away, one claiming that there was “2 different fields” and “2 different monies” but refuse to admit that the bible is in fact not inerrant, so contradict themselves and simply attribute the mistakes to copyist errors” and scribal errors, as in that it was “human mistake,” which still doesn’t make it inerrant. AM not going to go on. THERE ARE SIMPLY TOO MANY. CHECK OUT PASCAL’S WAGER and your BIBLE (whichever translation you read) for more references!!!

YOUR QUOTE:-“In My Place Condemned He Stood”, Packer explains that all Pagan religions had their beginnings in Monotheism”
Nobody even knows when Christianity began!! Some dispute it was started by Jesus whereas others dispute it began when Jesus left the earth. Here are some internet sources from the answers.wiki site, and i know you might not find them credible but the internet is full of information, some useful some not you just take what you can;
* “Prior to Constantine, Christianity was a minor sect of Judaism. In reality, the Christianity that Constantine created was little more than a blending of the many belief systems of Europe at the time. Ancient Christianity was mostly a form of liberal Judaism, but Constantine blended Judaism with the “virgin Mary…”

*“Paul and his gentile followers; Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.” (this doesn’t even give a time)

*“When Christ died on the cross.” (same as above) It goes to show the level of confusion amongst ordinary people, not scholars.

your quote continued- “..and were influenced by the first worshippers of the true God. Retractors of Judaism / Christianity today flip that around and claim the similarities between pagan worship and Judaism are the result of Jewish copycats… but nothing could be further from the truth.”
The Hellenistic religions which you claim were ancient monotheistic pagan religions actually worshipped several gods particularly the Greek gods. They may have lived alongside Judaism but it wasn’t till the 4thcentury BCE that Jews were actually acknowledged by Greek writers, although Hellenistic Judaism did exist, and may have existed prior to that century (source from encyclopaediabritannica.com)

**** This is a quote from Wikipedia which has some invaluable sources if you know where to look and also you can tell where it has been cited from if you look at the bottom of the page ***

“Hellenistic Judaism was a movement which existed in the Jewish diaspora that sought to establish a Hebraic-Jewish religious tradition within the culture and language of Hellenism. The major literary product of the contact of Judaism and Hellenistic culture is the Septuagint translation from Biblical Hebrew and Biblical Aramaic to Koine Greek, which began in the 3rd century BCE in Alexandria. The decline of Hellenistic Judaism in the 2nd century CE is obscure. It may be that it was marginalized by, absorbed into or became Early Christianity.”
It’s not like the Jews were copying! Hellenism (the worship of several gods was in their culture already in Hellenistic Judaism which later evolved into Christianity, although it’s not known how.) Now this is better evidence for the arguments between the similarities between the bible and pagan beliefs and perhaps a more sound argument for how Christianity started! Why are you even linking Judaism with Christianity?? They have conflicting beliefs. Christians believe that Jesus was the son of god and the messiah and fulfilled the bible prophecies but Jews do NOT believe this. They in fact believe that Jesus is a “false messiah” because he did NOT fulfil the messianic prophecies.
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YOUR QUOTE-”The primary evidence for this is that the earliest of pagan religions in Mesopotamia were monotheistic in nature and gradually perverted even further to include other gods”

And where did Packer get this information about Mesopotamia??? Mesopotamia was the cradle of civilization meaning that different civilizations emerged from it, and through ancient writing systems it was discovered that its earliest civilization was the early dynastic Egypt, and you already know that the Egyptians had more than one god. It was the same with Sumer, which is another civilization that began in Mesopotamia which had many gods like Nanna and Eridu. Afterwards in the 6th century they were invaded by Islam, which IS a monotheistic religion, so i don’t understand what you mean by “ and gradually perverted even further to include other gods.” What other gods??? There was also Christianity in some Mesopotamian regions, another “monotheistic” religion.

*****I have to hand it to you. You did make some pretty valid points/ questions especially concerning those who have the occult power in their hands and likening it to satan’s kingdom dividing because “those in the know” are abusing those with little knowledge by hiding true spirituality from them using “satanic powers” instead of promoting knowledge which is what satan the bringer of knowledge would want. :-

YOUR QUOTE:- “if occult magic was true illumination, why would those who were illuminated in those days craftily construct a lie to deceive the world, and subsequently mask the truth from potential believers in Satanism? If the religion of Judaism of the Old Testament, and Christianity is so harmful to humans, why would those who are illuminated create such a thing to potentially harm billions of people.”

My rational personal conclusion to this from articles I’ve read (including JOS) and research I’ve done is greed and power. If someone had access to unfathomable knowledge that could grant them and all human beings access to unlimited power to even become god-like and if one had no knowledge of it could be able to be easily controlled by it wouldn’t this knowledge be hidden or “masked”? Isn’t power after all one of the desires craved by human beings?? And what’s the opposite of having power? Being powerless and a slave to the one who has it. I think that the closest you could get to what the joy of satan meant by “the illuminated” – you could say they were THE ILLUMINATI and freemasons of today. The funny thing is that I am yet to find a source that says that freemasonry and the illuminati originated from Satanism. If anything both have some history that goes back to the catholic church! There have been theories about where freemasonry originated from. Some have claimed that freemasons originated from the knights templar, who also known as the order of the temple (solomon’s temple.) Either way they are seen as a brotherhood of freethinkers who have regular meetings and “rituals” in grand lodges, which have been labelled “ satanic” in modern times and very secret. Even artists have been linked to them because they supposedly have a secret agenda along with the illuminati to create a one world government by controlling everyone through the media , corporations like world bank and IMF, food chains, drink chains, energy companies, and basically everything that we rely on and through satanic mind control experiments on special candidates (those coming from multigeneral incest families and those who have been through sexual abuse and paedophilia. )

One way to “spot” these not-so-secret societies is through the representation of the “one-eye” symbol which hovers over an unfinished Egyptian pyramid. Many say this is the eye of dajjal (the antichrist), and that modern day artists such as jay z are promoting this agenda through their music and also by throwing the “roc sign” and that he is a 33rd degree mason. Some even say Obama is part of it as it’s usually influential people who are “exclusive” to entering. This is all very interesting am sure but it begs the question what really is the use??? If satan really wanted to destroy the world wouldn’t he use his own resources, i.e. his “demons” who are more powerful than mere “human beings” instead of wasting time handing powers out to people to gain that knowledge and everything they needed and to build up that knowledge to advance themselves (which would take years) before taking control of the world one mind control experiment and ritual at a time???

Wouldn’t he use more mass scale destructions like accidents, natural disasters, cause people to lose their faith through him concentrating bad things in their lives all the time if he really wanted? Why would he go through a secret society?? especially one that had links with the bible or the catholic church?? Aren’t they like his enemies?? Why would satan work with his enemies to accomplish his goals? Wouldn’t he work against them?? If freemasonry is so evil why does it have such detailed connections with the bible and why is it foundations based on biblical archetypes and the scriptures? “Freemasonry and the Bible go hand in hand, but throughout the centuries, different Bibles have been placed upon the Masonic altar. from the time of Freemasonry’s Old Charges (1390 – 1714) and before, as well as to the current period. While Holy Books from all languages reside upon the many Masonic altars around the world, it is of note that for English speaking Freemasons, whose Masonic lodge uses the Bible, the Bible of today is, like all Bibles, a translated version of the original Hebrew texts.” (freemasonry and the Bible website)

First there was the septguaint, then the St. Jerome’s Vulgate (translated to latin), then Wycliffe bible, then Gutenberg bible (printed version of latin vulgate), Tyndale bible, the great bible, geneva bible (puritan), Douay Bible, then the famous king james bible. But funnily enough translations still carried on!!! NIV, ASV etc Freemasonry has biblical foundations, according to the site, but then the bible IS ONE OF THE 3 GREAT LIGHTS OF FREEMASONRY (not exaclty sure what it means but it has something to do with freemasonry) so it must have been written by them!!!! No people inspired by the holy spirit?? No original manuscripts of the bible have been found, just translations upon translations. Isn’t this just a tad bit suspicious???
“ Foundations of Freemasonry and the Bible
For Christians, Freemasonry and the Bible are intricately connected….just as the Holy Books of other religions are central to their Freemason foundations.

* THE CREATOR: It is to the Supreme Architect of the Universe, our Creator, he of many names around the world, that each of us worship.
*MASONIC SYMBOLS: Ark of the Covenant, the Mosaic Pavement, Jacob’s Ladder, the Lambskin Apron, King Solomon’s Temple and others.
*MASONIC RITUAL DEGREE VERSES: The 3 verses within the 3 Masonic Degrees of Entered Apprentice, Fellow Craft and Master Mason are direct quotes from the Bible.
*BIBLICAL CHARACTERS: King Solomon, Hiram Abif, Hiram of Tyre, Tubal Cain, St. John the Baptist, St. John the Evangelist, Jacob and Jacob’s Ladder, etc. All are biblical characters.
*MASONIC ALTAR: The Masonic altar holds a Holy Book (or several Holy Books, depending upon the personal religions of its members).
It is around this Holy book that Freemasons circumambulate in their attempts to perform acts pleasing to the Creator.
*MASONIC CHARITY: The origins of Masonic charity begin with The Good Samaritan. (Luke 10:25-37)
And so it is written that no man should ever engage in any important undertaking without first invoking the aid and blessing of Deity. Could the bible just be one big code for some secret knowledge that has been hidden for centuries?? BECAUSE NONE OF THIS REALLY MAKES SENSE TO AN AVERAGE CHRISTIAN. WE KNOW ABOUT JOHN THE BAPTIST AND KING’S SOLOMON’S TEMPLE BUT WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO DO WITH FREEMASONRY??? WELL AMPLE RESEARCH IS NEEDED TO FIND OUT…

The reason why i mentioned freemasons because they seem to be “enlightened” and according to modern conspiracy theorists hold a secret knowledge against the world and humanity, although i see nothing of that sort, but then how can we be so sure what their agenda is?? The joyofsatan did mention that true freemasonry has been lost over the years. Could it be that they actually had good intentions for human beings which were simply taken over by greed or something?? If all this research is true then it disproves your comment that satan is divided amongst himself. It would mean that Satan never even entered the picture!

The order of the illuminati (which suddenly turned evil and satanic today) was founded by a jesuit-taught man called Adam Weishpaut in 1776 in upper Bavaria in Germany. The Jesuits were also the society of jesus who followed the teachings of the catholic church. They were a group of priests and inspired by freemasonry and teachings that occurred during the age of enlightenment, which influenced western philosophy, intellectual, scientific and cultural values which showed that reason led to legitimacy and authority. In political science legitimacy stands for a system of government, and freemasons adopted this thought in their lodges because they were free thinkers. This is perhaps why many of their members were highly influential people in politics and high positions like david Rockefeller and George Washington. According to history most of the jesuits’ works were promoting education, missionary work, intellectual research, and helping others to follow christ more closely . So where exactly did the conspiracy begin?? WHO KNOWS???
If you read The trance-formation of America on this site http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/transforusa/transformation05.htm# CHAPTER 2 – THE RITE TO REMAIN SILENT by ex-CIA slave cathy o’brien you come accross a conversation between now deceased U.S. republican politician guy vanderjagt and cathy (who claims to have come from a family of multigeneral abuse and incest thereby making her the perfect “slave”)

*** “a covenant is a promise to keep secrets, the secret that the church knew all along. The Pope has all the secrets locked away at the Vatican. Your Uncle Bob and I have been to the Vatican. It is time you entered into the holy covenant and learned the secrets of the church that were written long before Christ even came into being. The Dominican monks kept the covenant that Noah carried into the new world. They kept the secret with them. It was written on parchment and kept in a secret place in the Vatican. They took a Vow of Silence to never reveal its location, or its content. You must enter into the covenant. You must carry the secret to your grave. Keep it secret from your mom, dad, everybody.” ****

As ridiculous as this may sound you would probably be telling me something different once you’ve read this chapter because it is as graphic, as putrid and as disgusting as they come and highlights the horrors of the roman catholic church where priests involve themselves in paedophilia on innocent children, something which is still going on today. And surprise surprise they are working alongside the Jesuits!!! This is all highlighted by Cathy in this particular chapter of the online book.
Just 2 days ago, according to the bbc news site a catholic priest pleaded guilty for indecent assault of 3 children aged 10-14, after already serving 5 years in jail for abuse of children, some disabled…
HOW DISGUSTING!!!??
Cathy also mentions that she’s been abused by Satanists, which I think is quite a shallow statement because there are different forms of Satanism, and although it seems you are very much against the joy of Satan john, which i admit is quite “hands on” and extreme in its theologies about how Satanism started it never encourages violence or sexual abuse (except for the part about the holocaust which I DON’T AGREE WITH.) Do you see any links that encourage murders or blood sacrifices?? Am sure you browsed the “SATANIC RITUALS” section. The only controversial part is the destruction ritual of enemies which is also black magick which is present in other occult religions.

There is also Laveyan Satanism which is atheistic in nature and doesn’t focus on the Christian bible (you might want to look at that.) They have the satanic bible. It wouldn’t be atheistic if it focused on Christianity now would it? And also theistic Satanism by diane vera which looks at Satanism from a more theistic point of view, as in it agrees with some of the bible’s descriptions of satan but not as the bringer of evil or suffering on humanity but rather the bringer of knowledge and one who encourages free thought and individuality, and opposes the dogmas of institutionalised religion. There are so many different sects of Satan, some traditional, some theistic some more scientific. There is the order of nine angles, temple of set , cathedral of the goat and several different ones. But so far you only looked at joy of satan which is somewhat where your bias comes from because you lump all Satanists in one.

It’s ok for Christians to have different denominations and different translations of one bible because you can’t all agree to which books have canonicity and which ones don’t. The apocrypha was also removed from the bible because it seen as contradicting all the other scriptures that did have canonicity, but the songs of Solomon was a sexual book – why wasn’t that removed then but instead “tweaked” to make it seem less erotic and more religious?? The apocrypha was removed from bibles because it supposedly had some verses that supported the existence of purgatory and encouraged things like suicide and witchcraft and verses that stated that Mary was born sinless. They seem more catholic.

If the bible truly was inspired by the holy spirit then surely the right text would go in without dispute?? And not to mention it can’t be decided whether the catholic church is Christian or not, yet it worships the same god as all the other christians. And the whole confusion with the trinity…3 gods in one. How is Christianity truly monotheistic?

You might also want to look at sources outside of Christianity, like Pascal’s wager which is some very good in depth essays online which give quite solid arguments against hardcore Christian beliefs. Just type “pascal’s wager “ in google. Also try documentaries like ZEITGEIST ADDENDUM, zeitgeist the movie, and zeitgeist moving forward. They are highly mentally stimulating. You can just download them in this digital age. Also non-christian authors might help you broaden your scope a bit more about the real history behind religions such as Satanism, and also other religions which aren’t Christian, but worship different gods and believe in a “oneness” that might be interpreted as their view of the Christian god. They believe in and practice meditations and yoga (as does Satanism) and existed in ancient times. This includes Buddhism and Hinduism. They are the kinds of “right hand path” religions that believe in reincarnation. There is also a book which I’m wanting to read but since I’m short on funds I haven’t been able to. It’s called The mystical journey from Jesus to Christ by Muata Ashby. You say you’re open minded so why don’t you take that leap of faith and don’t be afraid to question from time to time your beliefs. You are after all, only human John!

ANYONE FEEL FREE TO DISAGREE WITH ME!!!   gilgamesh

Hail satan.  Guy who wrote the article is an idiot

Hi, having just visited this website i read the statements on here. I must say i am not from the J.O.S website ok. The truth is: both Christianity and Satanism have been at war for years and years, this arugement is nothing new. The main arguement here is whether these religions( Satanism and Christianity) are the way and the truth! I have to say, as someone that has really opened his eyes to whats going on in the world today, i must say that the bad stuff that is happening like wars etc, has NOTHING watsoever to do with Satanism or indeed Witchcraft. (and the two are NOT one and the same) The number one most controlling and dominating religion in todays world…IS Christianity. The real truth lies with the word ‘freedom’ of which Christianity tends to preach to its people they are in fact free, when they clearly are not. Freedom does not mean you surpress the truth or hide any thing from your followers. Christians are first to say to you that ‘you need help’ or you need to be ’saved’, if you dont worship their ‘God’. I dont where they have got the word ‘GOD’ from as this word spelt backwards is ‘DOG’.  William

I feel that there is a very basic element of all this that has not been addressed. Satan–the adversary, opponent, bringer of freedom, whatever–is indeed opposed not only to christianity, but to judaism and islam as well. Religion. The proper way to view religion in general is as an illness, a disease of the world. There is an intelligence of sorts behind the interplay of these three religions, a conscious desire for bloodshed and discord on behalf of this intelligence. “God” is a sort of incorporeal vampire that feeds off of the misery it instils in humanity, and has done so for thousands of years. Satanists have taken on the role of spiritual healers. Satan is the alchemical universal medicine, the antidote to the thing posing as God. Are Satanists preoccupied with Christianity? They should be. The three major world religions are a cancer on this world, and it is by the magical combat waged by the “opponent” that this cancer can be removed. Do you say that cancer researchers are preoccupied with cancer research? They are doing their job and fulfilling their will as healers, and that is all.
As far as the Bible is concerned, it is a masterpiece of literature and no more. Any qabalist can decide what any verse of Scripture “means” to them if it leads to spiritual liberation. Indeed, any masterpiece of literature can unlock spiritual doors.
I deny jesus christ, I will not submit to allah, and I spit in the face of yahweh. Lose your faith, ye faithful, and help in healing the world.  Alulim

@DP. You are pathetic.  djwnorway

Teens for Satan does not proselytize like u say they do. If u would actually read on the website they specifically say multiple times that this is an idePendant and totally personal decision tht they dnt HAVE to take. As for “selling ur soul to the devil” as u say, u rnt actually handing over ur whole soul u r simply making a formal dedication to satan. Ur soul is still urs, its not the same as giving ur soul to jesus in which u offer everything u have to him. U say tht satan is divided against himself, yet we have catholics, protestants, menonites, lutherans, baptists all claiming they are better than the other and trying to point out the flaws in all their beliefs and that they rnt doing it right. They ones tht wish to put themselves at the top and keep the power “in the hands of a select few” are the jews and they are by no means satanists. They made a deal with the greys (extraterrestrials that are behind this whole scheme of christianity) that they could have wealth and power in exchange for souls which are the ones that ask jesus into their hearts and give their lives and souls to “GOD”. I suggest u rly think long and hard about something like this before u give everything u have including urself to it. I have grown up in a christian family and i never was able to learn another side of the story. My parents told me not to try to learn about any other kind of religon. Thts how christianity works, they refuse to open their minds and learn something new. If they did that they might not be enslaved like how these christians are now, but i guess that cant be changed with some of u. If some of u would acually READ with an open head u might learn something. Some of u might say that i dont rly know god. OH I KNOW “GOD” believe me. The same god that would command moses to go through and slaughter men women and children and “keep the virgins for yourselves” as it says in Nmbrs 31. Ever since i’ve joined with satan i’ve been shown A HELL of alot more power than all my 14 yrs of following “GOD”. My life has made a turn for the better and i am seeing positive results in my life.”can u heal urself with ur power” “Can u prevent aging and make urself live forever…” YES we can as a matter of fact. Each of us has the power within us to do amazing things. Every ‘miracle’ jesus performed can easily be done if one has the knowledge and the power.”… By lighting a few candles and incense…” no, the only ingredient u need to work magic and stuff is energy, which many of u do not understand. I do, however, believe in “GOD” as ironic as it may sound, but how i understand god to be. “GOD” is a compilation of the energy of millions of human souls that the reptilian aliens use as a power source. I am very happy to see many brothers and sisters of satan on here fighting on here, dark blessings to u! U christians say we r the ones that do not understand, it is not this way. It is U that lack the understanding. I encourage u to read the joy of satan with an open mind and THINK for urself instead of letting “jesus” think for u in the back of ur head. ~AVE SATANAS  Fire

What xians don’t understand is that as Spiritual Satanists we worship Satan as God. There is NO connection to the fallen angel that the bible refers to constantly. We are only in this war because YOU started it. In order to force people to love your god you needed an enemy so you stole our God and slandered him. Unlike you I know and understand both sides of this as I was raised a xian until I escaped. Even if your version of events were true then let’s look at the story clearly. Your allpowerful god, who controls and knows everything, created an unchangable plan. He creates an amazingly beautiful, wise, charasmatic angel called Lucifer. He then gave him great power and declared him his most favourite. Your Lucifer grew under the shield and protection of his creator unaware that he
was only brought into being to be a sacrifice and the biggest scapegoat of all time in order for your god to use him as a tool to frighten us all into loving him because he knew from the start we would never do so willingly. Also everytime your god fucks up he gets to gloriously pass the buck. What a sadistic, cowardly fake? Hail Satan! Much love, Alyshanti xoxo ps. For US failure is NOT an option so be warned. Educate yourselves, think for yourselves, lest it be too late for you. PPS. I own my own fucking soul you twat! Satan protects it for me and nurtures it! Get a fucking grip will you?  Alyshanti

Y’all are silly! The creator of this world had one main point to make. “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” and it was spread worldwide. Your Gods and demons are irrelevant. Hell is a word that has changed several times even in the Biblical cannon and can be found rooted in many Mesopotamian/Mediterranean/Mid Eastern works of literature.

Hades, the Zoroastrian lake of fire, Gahena, come on. One universal and logical point exists though, and that is the Golden rule that was said by Jesus, Zoroaster, Confucius, and so many others. It is how a creator would sustain the population of his creations and perhaps hold them accountable. That concept is both life and peace and encompasses the commandments of Mosaic law. It is engrained in us by default, our natural sense of right and wrong. So basically, I am just saying calm down folks and look at the real point of it all.  Bob

@Bob – You are right! Jesus himself said the same thing.. All the law and the prophets are summed up by two statements, “Love God, and love others”. Moses understood this, Zoroaster understood this, Jesus, Paul, James, Peter… they all understood this. How has Christianity fallen so depraved these days that we’ve forgotten the whole point of the scriptures?  John Hardin

Firstly much thanx and respect to Bob and John. Much to think
about. Secondly I apologise for my colourful use of language
-no excuse for it. The Bible could/ should have been a
source of inspiration but basically it was what killed mainstream
religion for me. 1) it has been disected and altered so many
times who can guess what parts are original. 2) many gospels
were removed and/or destroyed including all written by
women. 3) changed for the personal gain. I was born both Roman Catholic and psychic (I am
an empath which means I read and feel the emotions of
all the people around me. I can also heal emotional wounds,
just not my own) I begged Jesus to heal me of this curse or help me to cope and learn to shield myself but
nothing happened. According to the bible I was basically damned from birth as I can’t shut it off.
The bible is clear about psychics. Satan helped me the very 1st
time I asked. Now it works for me, although I do help anyone
who asks. I can do it without damaging myself. On the topic
of treating others as you would etc. How do I love the man
who raped me when I was 16 whilst knowing I was grieving deeply for
a friend who was only 17, leaving me pregnant. No abortion!
Also what about the man who sexually abused my child
when she was only 11 or the one who raped her when
she was 13 doing to her what her father did to me. Watching
a young child miscarry has no word to describe it. Now the only
one I can trust is Satan who has loved, accepted and protected me since
the moment I called out to Him. Satanism is a wonderful thing.
May your God carry you safely in the palm of his hand, wherever you go, whoever he/she
may be. Much love, Alyshanti xoxo  Alyshanti

X-tians are forever telling people what to do what not to do and are liars. Hipocrites and say one thing and do another. I see this all day evey day. Only worry about getting caught doing something wrong. x-tians only worry about being caught doing something illegal. Never worry about the so called final jugement or going to hell or retribution from their so-called god. There is no hell or everyone who covers up for everyone from the common every day man to catholic priests and preachers whatever it is all the same. They only worry about getting cought never about hell etc. It’s obvious this is a total bunch of crap!  snap

And so it would seem, that rather like in final act of Hamlet, ‘the rest is silence.’  Alyshanti

No one should take this group seriously. They’re full of dumb. Also, “satan” comes for the Hebrew word “Hasatan” and simply means adversary. It was the title of an unnamed angel in the book of job.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Satan

“In biblical sources the Hebrew term the satan describes an adversarial role. It is not the name of a particular character. Although Hebrew storytellers as early as the sixth century B.C.E. occasionally introduced a supernatural character whom they called the satan, what they meant was any one of the angels sent by God for the specific purpose of blocking or obstructing human activity. [Elaine Pagels, "The Origin of Satan," 1995]”

Trust me these people are idiots. I don’t think you have anything to fear. Other Satanists don’t even think they’re a threat or that smart.  Xoc

Christians really like to rant on about LOVE. Love is an essential emotion, just as all the others are equally essential. True love, however has been cheapened by christianity to make is something it is not. Love is a two way street. This whole ‘loving everybody’ concept is really unhealthy and perverted (as is everything else in the christian religion). Loving for love’s sake and unconditionally loving your neighbor is an abuse of this emotion. And this loving your enemies concept is suicidal! What if our body’s immune systems just decided to “turn the other cheek”, so to speak, and loved invasive bacteria and viruses. If that were the case we wouldnt be around long. Abuse of love, like the other teachings of jesus and the bible, leads to confusion and chaos. True love is something that is earned upon a foundation of mutual empathy, kindness, trust, and goodwill between two people. That is what love is. You christians need to redefine love.
~Hail SATAN!  Fire

You should really have read a lot more of the jos website before you just started spouting your beliefs. I’ll admit to not reading all of the above comments so I apologize if I repeat anything that’s already been said. Let me begin by addressing the op: you are ignorant to such a point that I have to believe that you are acting that way on purpose. First let me correct you on you’re most fundamental mistake: Satan was not originally a Greek word. In sumeria (the most ancient of all human civilizations and languages) the word Satan means TRUTH. Not adversary. It was a word mostly reserved for their god EA, also known as Enki (please read about the Sumerian religion, the first religion predating your Xian religion by thousands of years, and maybe you can realize YOUR mistakes). So when spiritual satanists refer to “father Satan” it is the same thing as saying “the true father.” Next… I’m astounded at your inability to grasp why the Christian and Jewish religious leaders would want to horde this power for themselves… The Vatican has enough money to give every single person in the world over 25,000 dollars. You do th math. The catholic churches preach that only by GIVING YOURSELF TO GOD’S WILL (not too far from your claim of spiritual satanists selling their soul to Satan, which doesn’t happen.) can you be given salvation, that is after living a life of perpetual remorse for your sins and praying to a god who never truly answers your prayers. Contrary to what you undoubtedly think, spiritual satanism is not a religion of callous disregard to morals and virtue, promoting evil and selfishness. In truth, the moral code of the bible was stolen from the teachings of the original gods (Enki and his annunaki, or Satan and his demons, however you want to look at it). That is how the judeo/Xian faith has survived. They took the morals that appealed to each person’s innate morality and added their own rules (which result in a vague spiritual slavery) without actually offering anything in return but a promise of rewards in an afterlife. I hate to attack others’ beliefs, but your blatant disregard of the use of fact or source in your post was appalling. You preach the divinity of a god which promoted sacrifice, both animal and human and led it’s people into countless wars in the bible alone, not to mention the atrocities they have committed in recorded history (crusades anyone? Witch hunts?). Spiritual satanism teaches none of this. Yes, the false religions are detested, but other than those weak-minded fools who are misguided by the medusa portrayal of Satan being a murder-loving evil being, spiritual satanists are not radicals.
Back to the use of names and symbols… The Jews are the ones who created the hebrew language… They saw father Satan as their opposer, their opposite. Only a negative connotation in their point of view, an opposer to their faith. You should study linguistics before you spew filth from your mouth you infidel. Now the symbols… I’m sure you’ve heard talk of how satanists inverted cross is blasphemy of the crucifix? HA! It’s the other way around. The inverted cross presages the store of Jesus by thousands of years. It was a symbol of man reaching spiritual enlightenment and the chakras opening up and filling the body. The star of David? Stolen from the Hindus. The point up pentagram is an inversion of the point down pentagram that any spiritual satanist (or intelligent wiccan) knows symbolizes the entering of energy from the universe into the spirit to be used for enlightenment, the point up symbolizing releasing your energy, thus draining your own chakras. I can keep going for days, as your entire religion is nothing but a collage of truth ripped from the true faiths, which your leaders thus destroyed, hoarding their knowledge for themselves. Look at any history book and you cam see the countless number of documents, works of art and literature, and other religions destroyed by the catholic church during the crusades in the name of “god.” I didn’t see those other religions “guiding” you to the truth with an iron fist and a knife to the throat.
The catholic church was not founded after Jesus death, as they like to claim in situations where they think they will be taken for their word. They were founded at the first council of nicea, hundreds of years after the alleged death of Christ. Another tidbit of fact: all the gospels were written after 70AD, at a time where the majority of literature being written was ALLEGORICAL. Before then, the only person preaching of Jesus Christ was Saul (aka Paul) who received his enlightenment through a vision (he had never even heard of Jesus of Nazareth, strange considering Jesus was supposedly such a figure of renown just before Saul began his ministry). Saul also NEVER MADE A CLAIM THAT JESUS HAD BEEN ON THE EARTH. He only claimed that Jesus had sacrificed himself so that we could have life and was resurrected. This story fits quite perfectly (allegorically) with the Sumerian tale of Enki who fell from the grace of his father for bringing technology and knowledge of magic and spiritual enlightenment to the humans, but is now offering his wisdom and knowledge to all those that would accept him.
OH MY GOD!!! did I just relate Satan to Jesus? Yes. I did. Even in the bible it is said that “the son” was there with god during creation. Well it also says that lucifer was gods first created angle, his most beautiful creation, and his second in command. I don’t have a degree in math, but if your god is #1 and Satan is #2 I’m not entirely sure where that leaves “Jesus” who, by the way, was actually named Joshua…
And no one ever said the bible was written by satanists. Spiritual satanism is about reaching enlightenment (godhead) with father satan’s help. It is an esoteric process which one could attain without his help (there are other gods of that time, lesser than him, and those that opposed him in the time of the Sumerians. Magic is not a solely satanic thing.) the bible was written by Jews who knew these magics and wished to keep them hidden from the common people by convincing them that if they were to submit to the divine will of god and endure the toil of mundane life, they would be rewarded in the afterlife. All the while they took money in the form of communion and donations and their topmost leaders now comprise the elite that control global economics and politics.  Nathan

i disagree with you Fire. You can love everyone and everything in this world. I believe that it’s impossible to “abuse your emotions” as you put it. Also, never in history has loving someone come to complete chaos. It is hate that makes the world chaotic. If love didn’t exist then the world would be a horrible place. People wouldn’t marry because it would be rather pointless if all they’re doing is arguing and fighting with one another. Another thing i would like to add is that loving your enemies isn’t “suicidal”. A question i have for you is, “HOW is loving them “suicidal?” What harm can come from loving your enemies? I can say that trusting them will probably prove to be fatal, but not loving them unconditionally.  bluejay

Utterly, miserable, absolute, total, severe and complete FAIL! of CATASTROPHIC PROPORTIONS!

I see the writer of this has a long way to go before they will be able to recede from their own severe case of blind driven faith and cranial rectitus.

He/She/It has what can be referred to as “Cognitive Bias” and “Cognitive Inertia” go ahead and Google it

Keep on serving the Holey-Babblical god Anu-Jehovah-Yahweh and well …you’ll see or more than likely perhaps you won’t until it too late …but either way, one-way-or the other – head in or out -….in the end (the hind-one that is) is where the screwing will take place. And that’s putting it nicely!~

~ Hail Enki! ~ Hail Satan! ~  Lord.Kayle

Y’all needa shut up. I’m a Satanist, but I’m not gonna try to prove anything to the Christians and force Father Satan unto them, because that would make me no better than the Christians that did it to me for so many years, and still do today. I know I am powerful, so i don’t need to prove anything. Just don’t weaken yourselves and stoop down to their level.  A Voice of Reason

THERE IS NO GOD. YOU ARE THE GOD. THE MIND IS THE MOST POWERFUL TOOL FOR WITHOUT IT, EVERYTHING CEASES TO EXIST. YOU ARE GOD, BECAUSE YOUR MIND IS WHAT GIVES YOU LIFE AND WHAT CEASES EXISTENCE WHEN ITS GONE.  GOD

join satan  ekpenyong ita ekpenyong

You Satanists have yet to give any valid, or strong points against this article, or against Christianity for that matter.

@Lord.Kayle: Cognitive Bias? Perhaps the same can be said for you. What makes you think that you know the truth? You don’t, plain & simple. No one does.

All in all folks, at the end of the day, this argument could go either way as to which religion is the “correct” one. I, however, agree with this article, as I think it brings up some good points. Satanism very well is a reaction to Christianity, & if you feel differently, then so be it. I just hope that one day you all will see the truth.  T.D.

This whole posting is a feeble attempt to disprove True Satanists and to try to push christianity/islam/jews further. This don’t even make sense either. Try studying occult and you will know what xtianity really is.  Malphas

@bluejay How can love be suicidal? ok, so we have the orange army on one side in their fort and we have the blue army on the other in their fort. Now, these two armies have been at war with eachother for awhile now for whatever reason. Now suppose the blue army decides they want to go love their enemies because jesus told them to. So they leave all of their weapons and forms of defense and decide to pay a visit to the enemy fort which would be the fort of the orange team. The orange team takes advantage of this and totally wipes them out. It’s actually a pretty simple concept if you ask me.  Fire

as much as I oppose the JOS it’s not because of it’s satanic side. There are too many lies in the bees nest of christianity. For one, if the hebrew god was really real there would be no evidence of religions before he came along and there would be no other religions. Mind you judaism is old, but the sumerians had their own gods and they weren’t YHWH. Not to mention One of those threads which predates even judaism is still alive today: hinduism. How does a supposedly perfect god teach two different lessons to two different groups of people? Right. Because fi YHWH is real his kingdom is divided amongst itself as well. But they don’t teach you that inconvient truth now do they? As to saving “men’s souls” you’re making a gross assumption that most men even HAVE souls. To me A soul can only be MADE .. You don’t have one by default. That’s why there are so many walking zombies caught in the the lie of materialism and even when sold the truth unable to hear it: because they are without souls.  dae

Satanism make a lot more since….they get their conclusions from logic and reasoning. Christians try to prove what they say with more Bible. The Bible was created to be a snare to the soul  Christ killer